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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Kermit for Winsock
Message-Id: <1995Apr26.092730.48725@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 26 Apr 95 09:27:30 MDT
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In article <1995Apr25.173132.61776@earlham.edu>, MARKP@earlham.edu (Mark H Pearson) writes:
> I am sure that this question has been asked a zillion of times
> already, but ...
>
> I'm an avid user of Kermit and support it on all PCs at our College.
> However, once on the network and using Windows, DOS Kermit becomes a
> pain in the botty department. I have to load a Packet Multiplexor,
> then a packet driver for Winsock, and WINPKT etc etc. You know the
> score - with ODI in there too, it's as stable as a house of cards and
> uses up acres of precious DOS memory. Sooooo ....
>
> I gather there's a beta of Kermit for WIndows and I was wondering what
> the 'official' line on this is. It's my humble opinion that even
> though we're in the Web age, there's still a need for rock solid VT220
> / VT320 terminal emulation, pass throught printing support,
> scriptability, etc and Kermit has it all. What are the sticky issues
> in porting Kermit into the Windows environment, apart from the obvious
> one that it sucketh and hath no development tools .... ?
---------
There isn't a beta Kermit for Windows, at least nothing from the
Columbia Univ Kermit project. There is MS-DOS Kermit which while being
a DOS program is Windows-aware and tries to get along.
Perhaps you are trying too hard above. Since my place uses MSK
rather heavily in Windows, and students are also rather fond of Netscape
et al, I create two .BAT files for them. One simply brings up Windows
normally and MSK runs in it. The other loads Novell's LWP/DOS TCP/IP
stack, removes most program icons, adds Netscape, brings up Windows; on
exiting it unloads LWP. The cost is small: just a directory with copies of
*.ini, *.grp and win.com for the second case. All this material lives
on a read-only Novell NetWare fileserver.
Creating a solid comms program in Windows is a rather difficult
and lengthy task. One doesn't port programs this way. We have commented
on the issue about every week in this group. The sticky points are money
to pay for people and time, people, and time.
Joe D.